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Naslov: "Loše tekućine" i tekućine potencijalno krive za pucanje Postano: 10 vel 2017 11:03 |
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Pridružen: 08 vel 2017 06:09 Postovi: 3
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Pozz modu, ne znam gdje bi stavio, ali mislim da je koristan text, pod loše se misli na one koje imaju Triacetin pa bih molio možda u 2 dijela, pošto je dugačak, ili premjestit gdje već treba : my 2cents Most Recent UPDATE
My aim is to compile a list of juice and flavorings that may cause problems as far as cracking, fogging, or etching polycarbonate tanks. Anything listed here may cause your polycarbonate tank to be damaged. I am primarily focused on the polycarbonate tanks, although this info may apply to other tanks.
I am certainly not attempting to ban any flavors or ejuices. I'm just trying to help out some folks who continue use polycarbonate tank systems.
***Most, if not all, polycarbonate plastic by nature uses BPA in its manufacturing You can read about BPA leaching from plastics. Just google BPA. IMHO, it's just another good reason to move away from polycarbonate material.
Polypropylene is my personal choice for tank tubing because it it inexpensive and durable. This is the same material that is used to make syringes. Polypropylene tubing can be purchased here: McMaster-Carr. You can use 5/8"id x 3/4od for Liquinator tanks, Lil mama tanks, Big daddy tanks, Jtanks, and others. This tubing has a very slight curve to it, but will not be noticeable when cut to a short length. You can see a pic of a tank I made using this tubing with Liquinator endcaps here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ ... -tank.html
The popular DCTanks can now be found made from polypropylene tubing. Polypropylene will not crack from a chemical reaction from using juices on this list. For some reason, most vendors are not stating the fact that these are made from polypropylene. IMO this is an excellent selling point that they are missing... These tanks can be used with some XL cartos, or they can be easily cut down to fit a standard sized carto, my personal preference, since I have a few dozen tanks, and I can't afford the pricier ones.
Glass tanks are also a wonderful alternative.
I am personally not familiar with the Vision Stardust type tanks or any of the clearomizer types. From what I hear, they are polycarbonate and folks seem to be having the same issues with cracking/frosting. I am also not familiar personally with Vivi Nova's, since I have found my happy place with polypropylene DCTanks.
All of the ejuice/flavors listed below have been reported by at least one ecf member to cause problems for them. YMMV.
Some of these are premixed juices, some are flavorings that DIY'ers use. Contributions have been made by myself and other members. So far we have:
Here is the list. Everything listed here has caused someone a problem with a polycarbonate tank. Some have reported no issues whatsoever with some of these juices/flavorings. Use at your own risk with polycarbonate tanks.
Alien Vision Cravelope Alien Vision Pineapple Pulp AVE Hype Cinnamon like "atomic cinnamon" types, not warm cinnamon like cinnamon coffee cake, this is okay Citrus acid Clove oil Cola(because of cinnamon)? Decadent Vapors Bubblegum Dekang Pina Colada/Tobacco mixed DIY Flavorshack Tangerine DIY Gummibear(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank). E liquids that contain triacetin, used in vg liquids to carry flavor more effectively Ecblends Apple Pie Ecblends Banana Ecblends Cinnamon Apple ECBlends Gingerbread, double flavor ECBlends Grape ECBlends Rootbeer Ectoplasm Elixirliquids Cinnamon Death Elixirliquids Deathday Cake Elixirliquids Gummibear Elixirliquids Heaven and Hell(cinnamon with menhtol) Elixirliquids Rage(hot cinnamon) FA Lemon Sicily Flavoring FA Tiramisu Flavor West Ecto Cooler at 12% with 5% TPA Hawaiin Punch(diy mixture) Flavor West Mojito Flavoring Fuzion Vapor Gumby's Blood Ginger's Fireball HellaVapor's Raspberry Winta-green High Brow Vapes Orange De Sangre(peeling on inside of tank) High Desert Vapes Ecto Cooler High Desert Vapes Applewood Tobacco Honeysuckle KBV Hummingbird Nectar Lorann Butter Rum flavor Lorann Butterscotch Flavoring Lorann Horehound Flavoring Lorann Peppermint oil Mad Murdock's Radiator Pluid MadVapes Black Licorice Malic acid Mimosa(because of the orange) Mountain Oak Vapors Red Drop Mrs. T's Apple Crumble Mrs. T's Apple Pie with Ice Cream Mrs. T's Kickin' Pineapple Mrs. T's Snickerdoodle Mrs. T's Strawberry Lemonade Mrs. T's Strawberry Shortcake Mt. Baker Vapor Arnold Palmer Mt. Vapor Cola Mt. Baker Vapor Cream Soda Mt. Baker Vapor Marachino Cherry Mt. Baker Strawberry Lemonade Mt. Baker Vapor says not to use their Amaretto, Cinnamon, Citrus flavors, Mt. Dew, Sweet Tarts, Green Apple, Ginger, and Lavender in plastic tanks Mt. Dew flavoring Mt. Vapor's Lemonade(endcaps melted) My Vape Store Cinnabun Neon Vapors Neon Cherry Nutmeg Oil based/e liquid that conains essential oils, when mixed with.pg/vg, creates esters which will crack plastics Pluid Rawrvapor Antidote Rawrvapor AuRaWRa Rawrvapor Banapple Rawrvapor Hawaii Sunrise Rawrvapor Strapple RxVapor Bugatti Sassafras Smokeless Image Banana Nut Bread Liquid from From Smokeless image Sour flavors Tasty Vapor Atomic Cinnicide Tasty Vapor Cherry Cola Tasty Vapor Sherbet Timmy's Double Double from Juicy Clear TPA Blueberry Candy(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank) TPA Blueberry(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank) TPA Cherry Blossom flavoring TPA Cinnamon Danish flavoring TPA Earl Gray Tea flavoring TPA Holiday Spice flavoring TPA Honeysuckle flavoring TPA Lemon Lime flavoring TPA Maraschino Cherry flavoring TPA Pineapple flavoring TPA Ripe Banana flavoring TPA Rootbeer Flavoring TPA RY4 Double Flavoring TPA Spearmint flavoring TPA Sweettarts TPA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream flavoring TPA Vanilla Custard flavoring V2Cig's Menthol V4L WOW Peppermint Nobacco VAL Goddess Vapalicious Gooey Butter Cake. Vape Dude's Lemonade VaporGod Black Cherry VaporGod Spearmint Vapor Renu Cherry Crush Vapor Renu Marlboro, Lavender, Pink Lemonade Vapor Renu Mt. Dew Baha Blast and Strawberry Limeade Vapor Renu Mt Dew Code Red Vapor Renu Teaberry, Cherry Vanilla (possibly most of their flavors) Vaporbomb Fire 'n Ice(cracked tank, melted rubber drip tip) Vaporbomb Green Apple Vaporbomb Hot Cinnamon Candy Vaporbomb Sun Kissed Vaporbomb Sweet Cherry Vaporbomb Sweet Cinnamon Red Hots Vaporgod Licorice Vapor Room Cinnamon Red Hots Virgin Vapor Luscious Lime Virgin Vapor Sweet Summer Lemonade Vixen Vapor RH Candy Cane Vixen Vapor Rootbeer Wintergreen juice or flavoring Ziquid Zenthol
This list was reported on the thread. I'm not sure if it's Flavor Art or Flavor West, but the following e liquids may break your plastic tank based system.
Absinthe Amaretto Apricot Arnold Palmer Big Red Soda Black Licorice Black Rock Blood Orange Cider Fire Cinnamon Cinnamon Hot Tamale Cinnamon Red Hot Creme De Menthe Dr. Pepper Ecto Cooler Ginger Ale Ginger Green Apple Key Lime Lavender Lemonade Lightning Mango Mango Tea Maraschino Cherry Monster Bash Monster Morning Vape Mt. Dew Orange Orange Ice Peach Pineapple Pineapple Peach Pink Lemonade Rad Energy Razzle Dazzle Rock Star Root Beer Ruby Red Grapefruit Sassafras Solar Flare Sweet Tarts Tangerine Venom White Out Yellow Ice
Perfumer's Apprentice lists triactetin as in ingredient in some of their flavors, so be sure to check that out. Triacetin has caused problems for many members.
Disclaimer: These are not "bad" juices. They just have the potential to cause cracking in tank systems using polycarbonate tubing.
Thanks to ECF Veteran member Stosh for alphabetizing it
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PSA: How to stop tank-cracking e-liquids from cracking/etching/melting plastic/polycarbonate tanks.
Answer: Use only glass tanks. Problem solved.
I realize that top coil tanks have their advantages for non-variable voltage batteries and that there is no such thing as a top-coil glass tank/clearomizer (not that I'm aware of anyway) but I'd rather be safe and use a glass bottom coil tank. Plastic is yesterday's news. Glass is the only way to go anymore.
For those newbies who got duped into buying a starter kit with a plastic tank, I hear you, it sucks. But life is full of expenses which we have to experience and learn from. Move on and buy a glass tank.
As far as your options for small eGo threaded clearos...
-Aspire K1 - full glass tank
-Aspire ET-S Glass (make sure it is the glass version of the ET-S as they make a, ET-S plastic version as well. The ET-S glass isn't a fully glass tank, just glass windows. The rest is metal.)
-Kanger EVOD Glass ( just like the ET-S Glass, thi sis nto a fully glass tank, just glass windows on a metal tank. Be sure the tank etching says "EVOD GLASS". The EVOD2 looks exactly the same but the windows are plastic.
-Kanger Mini Protank 3 - another full glass tank.
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Naslov: Re: "Loše tekućine" i tekućine potencijalno krive za pucanje Postano: 10 vel 2017 11:40 |
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_________________ Ako su neki zivoti savrsena kruznica, drugi uzimaju oblik koji ne mozemo predvidjeti ni shvatiti. Gubitak je bio dio moga putovanja. No i pokazao mi je sto vrijedi. Kao i ljubav na kojoj mogu jedino biti zahvalan.
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Naslov: Re: "Loše tekućine" i tekućine potencijalno krive za pucanje Postano: 10 vel 2017 12:12 |
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Pridružen: 27 pro 2013 19:47 Postovi: 3397 Lokacija: Zagreb, Botinec
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sve to znamo već odavno, da si malo pronjuškao po forumu znao bi. ali svejedno...hvala na prilično beskorisnoj informaciji. tak se digla bila i panika oko diacetyla... da...plastika puca i loš je materijal za naše potrebe. nevjerojatno ali istinito. staklo isto, ali samo ako ga ja vozim u torbici na biciklu. metal ne puca, što je isto nevjerojatna činjenica za koju treba ići na fakultet. daj napiši još da ti smeta to što para pada i da bi da se diže... 
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Naslov: Postano: 10 vel 2017 12:41 |
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Pridružen: 25 vel 2013 00:01 Postovi: 4156 Lokacija: Karlovac
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O cem vi tu pisete? Vidim nesto zuto (pretpostavljam da su to slova) na bijeloj podlozi,al nista ne razaznajem
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Naslov: Re: "Loše tekućine" i tekućine potencijalno krive za pucanje Postano: 10 vel 2017 17:23 |
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Naslov: Re: Arome od kojih pucaju tankovi Postano: 02 ožu 2017 13:45 |
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Pridružen: 27 pro 2013 19:47 Postovi: 3397 Lokacija: Zagreb, Botinec
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Offtheset8 je napisao: I collected the tastiest types of ice-cream all over the world, you never guess which country is the most developed in this way http://skywritingservice.com/blog/what-are-the-most-popular-types-of-ice-cream I can tell you whose brain is not developed...interested?
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Naslov: Postano: 02 ožu 2017 13:59 |
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Naslov: Re: Arome od kojih pucaju tankovi Postano: 14 lip 2017 09:40 |
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Pridružen: 03 tra 2015 18:53 Postovi: 25
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  Ovako izgleda plastični tank od phenomenona nakon jednog tanka gulag summera Još si mislim ma neće valjda, al jbg.... Eto, ako baš ne morate nemojte testirati gulag na plastičnim tankovima.
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Naslov: Postano: 14 lip 2017 16:07 |
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Pridružen: 27 pro 2013 19:47 Postovi: 3397 Lokacija: Zagreb, Botinec
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krivo. ne branim gulag, vec mi niti jedan plasticni tank osim phenomenona, erlkonigina i tafuna gs nije pucao od apsolutno bilo cega, pa niti od cistih mentol kristala. oddy plasticni tank ne racunam...to nije od plastike vec od kartona koji iz daljine podsjeca na plastiku. naravno, ima agresivnijih aroma...to stoji, ali glavni krivac je tu krivi izbor proizvodjaca sto se materijala tice...a plastika od phenomenona je kriminalno losa. govorim o klonu...original nema tih problema.
generalno gledajuci, sve arome koje imaju jake zacine tipa anis, djumbir i slicno...kao i citrusi te mentoli su agresivnije. korisnik mora toga biti svjestan.
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